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Conference Realignment - Big 12 To Discuss Further Expansion, Louisville A Possible Target

At least they waited until the offseason to discuss it this time. The Big 12 committee charged with evaluating expansion options for the conference will meet today to discuss potential expansion targets as well as big picture decisions concerning whether or not expanding back to 12 teams and hosting a conference championship game should be pursued. This is an important development for the Big East because, according to a report in the Chronicle of Higher Education, Louisville is a high priority target for the Big 12, should the conference decide to expand further.

Brad Wolverton writes:

Further Big 12 expansion is "very possible," two high-ranking sources told The Chronicle. An expansion committee, dormant for months after the conference accepted West Virginia and TCU into league play, will meet today to discuss its options.

While conference officials stressed that no decision is imminent–and there is some opposition to moving beyond the current 10 member institutions–two schools are at the top of the list, should the league make a move.

Louisville, which the Big 12 considered adding last year, is the likeliest choice, according to people with knowledge of the talks. And Brigham Young, another university the conference has considered, continues to be a possible target. One official said the league was open to adding just one institution. The Big Ten made 11 work for a number of years, the source told The Chronicle.

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Just adding one team, even if that team is Louisville from the Big East, would likely satisfy both factions in the Big 12 that want to expand further for the television value, but do not want to have divisional play and play a conference title game. Losing Louisville would be a big blow to the Big East, but with the conference set on further expansion anyway, it would not likely result in the complete demise of the conference. With Pittsburgh and Syracuse remaining with the conference for two more seasons, the Big East would at least have time to try and find a replacement full member to maintain the football side of the conference.

When should we expect action on expansion from the Big 12? Not in the immediate future. From the article:

I don’t want to send the message, ‘Oh, they’re getting ready to expand,’" said Joseph R. Castiglione, the Oklahoma athletic director and a member of the expansion committee. "But you’d be naïve to think there’s not instability still in our business.

This is the Big East, instability is what we do.

For more coverage West Virginia's attempt to leave the Big East early, stay tuned to our Big East Falls Apart section.

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Not this crap again.

If it happens, it happens. And of course Louisville will be the first to pay the new $10 million exit fee.

by CardinalDude on Jan 25, 2012 9:32 AM EST reply actions  

There is no $10 million exit fee...

…it was never approved. I really hope the hoops only schools just break away at this point. We don’t play football and being in a BCS conference with SMU. UCF and Houston when you are there just for the hoops is just not good. I really hope a split occurs at this point and the Catholics head off and add Xavier, Dayton and maybe one other school for a ten team conference. I would be fine with just nine. Round robin schedule, can get four or five NCAA bids per year, will get a decent TV deal being in maor markets, and they don’t have to deal with this nonsense every two months.

by redmen9194 on Jan 25, 2012 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

The $10 million exit fee

Is in effect as of yesterday, that was according to Marinatto and the Big East brass on the Navy call yesterday. If Louisville were to leave, it would have to pay the new $10 million fee.

by Mengus22 on Jan 25, 2012 10:10 AM EST reply actions  

Am I the only Louisville fan who doesn't really care anymore?

The new Big East will actually be an improvement in football and I feel like we’d have a better chance at a championship. But cash rules everything

by Cards86 on Jan 25, 2012 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

I think Louisville would be foolish to leave the BE especially now. The conference is looking strong with the new additions and Louisville would be like a little fish in a pond with big fish. But again this is all about money. And unfortunately Louisville has shown its desire to leave ASAP.

by Vinnie Giordano on Jan 25, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I truly don’t understand why the Big East just doesn’t cut ties with football and move along. It would still be a very nice b-ball conference and as one poster stated, they could add Xavier, Dayton, etc. and still be one of the top leagues.

It’s clear that they have NO interest in football as their “reactive” decisions have plainly stated to the world.

by WVUColumbus on Jan 25, 2012 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Considering that adding Navy was something

That West Virginia supported when it was a member of the Big East, and that they said yesterday that they’ve been talking to Navy on and off for over a decade, this move hardly counts as a “reactive” measure.

by Mengus22 on Jan 25, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Not reactive?

How come they weren’t invited prior to WVU/Cuse/PITT announcements?

by WVUColumbus on Jan 25, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

we’ve only had 8 football playing schools for how many years?

by WVUColumbus on Jan 25, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

twenty, assuming the hostage situation holds out until 2013

This year was supposed to be the first season with >8, but then TCU got invited to return to the SWC join the Big 12 instead. And if you guys succeed in jumping ship, will be 7 (since we won’t try and join the ACC for the 2012-2013 academic year; 2013-2014 is another matter — if the BE remains intransigent, I expect SU, Pitt, and the ACC to figure out the logistics of switching mid-year).

by drothgery on Jan 25, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Just an FYI

Navy’s AD stated months ago that they were ready to accept an invite prior Syracuse and Pitt leaving. Navy said they wanted to see stability in the conference before it was going to agree to join the BE.

It was the ACC who got reactive and took Syracuse and Pitt because they thought they would be shut out when it looked like the Big 12 was going away. Now they are stuck with two mediocre programs from the BE.

by Vinnie Giordano on Jan 25, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Right buddy

That’s like saying to someone “I don’t understand why you just don’t move from full time to part time at work?” Its simple. MONEY!!!!! Why would the schools agree to cut away their major source of revenue. Basketball does not pay the bills.

by Vinnie Giordano on Jan 25, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

the non-football schools do not get a cut of football revenue

And if/when Louisville or UConn leave, the all-sports schools will be a net negative on basketball.

by drothgery on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about that.

The basketball-only schools aren’t all necessarily better than a group of UConn or Louisville with Cincinnati, now Rutgers, UCF, and potentially even USF. Recently, even South Florida has played surprisingly well against schools like St. John’s, Seton Hall, and DePaul.

by Green Bull on Jan 26, 2012 3:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry

They do get money from the arrangement.

by Vinnie Giordano on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

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